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Joe Rogan Experience #2076 — Tristan Harris & Aza Raskin

Dec 2023 🇺🇸 The Joe Rogan Experience / Spotify

In this roughly two-and-a-half-hour conversation, Tristan Harris and Center for Humane Technology co-founder Aza Raskin walk host Joe Rogan through the argument they had already published as 'The A.I. Dilemma,' extending their earlier social-media design critique to generative AI. They discuss competitive pressure among AI developers to ship increasingly capable systems, the difficulty of predicting downstream societal effects, and parallels they draw to engagement-optimized social platforms' associated effects on attention and mental health. The long-form, unstructured podcast format allows more extended discussion than typical broadcast interviews, touching on AI's possible effects on children's development and information environments. TechKids Foundation includes this episode as a widely heard long-form articulation of Harris's AI-risk argument reaching an audience largely outside traditional policy and technology-press circles.

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"Joe Rogan Experience #2076 - Aza Raskin & Tristan Harris." The Joe Rogan Experience, Spotify, December 19, 2023. https://open.spotify.com/episode/4ZcBHvjhGMTTdGF3fIdvg9

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